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Voice changes after waking

March 25, 2013

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My two cents worth.

Your vocal tract is relaxed when you wake up. It tenses throughout the day, due to a number of possible reasons, including, emotional tension, body cycles, bad posture, feelings and mood, type of food ingested, playing guitar, difficult tasks, etc., and gravity.

The vocal tract is attached to all other parts of one’s body, so tension arising from elsewhere can affect the vocal tract, reshaping your sound production methods.

Food, playing guitar, difficult tasks are easy to test, and emotional tension is easy to spot.   The others require more awareness–ergonomics, posture, feelings and moods.   These latter three can be fixed by ergonomics furniture and posture alignment (this is difficult to do though).  The feelings and moods are fixed via posture alignment, as described in meditation principles.

The question is less regarding why you’re tensioning when playing guitar, and instead, why your body doesn’t “detense” after playing the guitar and does so during your sleep.   In general, this is probably due to one’s posture alignment isn’t right, because if the posture is correct, then the counteracting muscles will pull and detense the tensed muscles when posture is straight.

 

>>>Hello, i have a problem with my voice. When i wake up my whole vocal system is very relaxed and i can hit from C2 to G6 and all the notes in between without any strain. My vocal fry is edgy and tone is clear, in short everything is perfect and i am really happy:D.

The bad news are that this quality and range (i dont care much about my whistle though its fun to have) is lost throughout the day and even within 1-2 hours without doing anything vocally… i mean not vocalizing at all. Vocal fry goes “bye bye” and i have to push to get the very high notes and i am limited from an F2 to a pushed G5 at best or ~G2 – ~D5 “solid” range. Also the quality degrades with little bit air, edge is greatly reduced. Only good thing is my highs E4-C5 become somewhat more powerful and easy to hit with fuller voice.

I think i am tensioning myself. Many times i find out i am tensioning especially when i play guitar or piano difficult exercises i am straining my jaw and probably my neck. This also happens without any activities, i mean doing nothing at all… :/

Any thoughts / advices?

Exercising, Yin and Yang

February 24, 2013

Think of exercising and stretching and yin and yang.  What one wants to achieve is harmony, like the ancient yin-yang symbol.

 

In yoga, this is expressed as stretch and counter stretch.

The reason your exercise affects singing negatively is because of excessive of one (yin or stretch).  What you need to do is to find the counterbalance– (yang or counter stretch), so that your voice attains harmony.

 

throat massage and myofascia

February 24, 2013

 

Anyone know more about these myofascia massage on throat methods?

Standing meditations

October 10, 2012

Focus deeply, not just a standing meditation, but continued deep reaching in of the tensions.

Self, thoughts.   Both thoughts and self can cause body actions.   Want the self, because thoughts are too many.

In my case, walking based on thoughts is such a body action.

My contrarian view

July 30, 2012

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Well, here’s my typical contrarian view.   Though I agree that Felipe has defined the problem accurately–that tension is the source of many difficulties, I believe the answers lie slightly different from what he said– strength building and coordination.

The answer I believe, lie in balance and posture, which results in muscle tonality and vocal pathway straightening and enhanced resonance.

Let’s first look at the logic.   1. Tension is not only the muscle fiber, but also their enwrapping myofascia tissue, and also tension of glandular tissues.   2. The body usually has diametrically opposed muscles– that is, weakness in one suggests tightness in its opposite.    These diametrically opposed muscles are what keeps one’s support structure and arms and head upright.

Also, let’s ask some questions:   1. Why doesn’t the body naturally strengthen its diametrically opposed muscles (rather than have to strengthen some particular muscle, as suggested above)?    2. What is coordination, other than the proper functionality of the diametrically opposed muscles?  3. What kinds of tension are we referring to?

But, to get to the point.   Strength building of a weakened muscle can help in restoring the Balance of diametrically opposed muscles, but there are many sources of weakened, taut diametrically opposed muscle set, including emotional, injury, myofascia, more…, and strength building only helps with one.

The elimination of these tensions, to restore the Balance of diametrically opposed muscle, is a resulting natural, innate human trait of in tone, balanced muscles.  These are what is meant by to restore one’s childness and perhaps even part of the Yin-Yang, in Eastern religions and philosophies.

And the starting point for all these– posture alignment– utilizing yoga exercises (by these, I mean more Eastern yoga), and then alignment of the spine to then practice meditation.

In summary, Balance through spinal alignment to get rid of tensions, instead of immediate strength building.

 

 

The wide variety of singing methods

December 5, 2011

From:  http://themodernvocalist.punbb-hosting.com/viewtopic.php?id=3164

By Nathan…

“So I know we all have our preference when it comes to singing methodology. Some use SLS, CVT, TVS, RYV etc. The problem is that all of these 3 lettered abbreviations we swear by have very differents methods and opinions on, often, the same area. Rarely do you find that they all unanimously agree on any particular thing. I’ve been encountering this problem all over the place whilst at music school. Different teachers, following different methods, will teach different things to the same students, which leaves us all dazed and confused….”

Instead of trying to figure out what the right technique is, start with determining the message you’re trying to deliver to the audience. Ask the question, what’s your singing worth without the audience’s hearing?  It is well known that people hear emotional messaging surprisingly well.

So, instead of trying to create specific tones, start with actualizing your emotional message.   Then, set the emotional in rhythm with the music.  Then make the message melodic (and a little poetic)    These are easier steps, and are difficult as is.   But, actually, you will probably do well, because you’ve had a lifetime of practicing this, as you’ve already expressed emotionally simply growing up, and your vocal apparatus know how to do these.

So, the first step, in my opinion, is to get to know yourself (as above).  (Isn’t it interesting how ancient philosophical ideas are so true?)

The next step, is to get rid of tension, and I believe this is accomplished by straightening body posture.  Tension makes it very difficult to sing properly.  Again, this is a view of “Know Thyself”– that is know by ridding what shouldn’t be with you.

The above two steps may take some time, maybe even a few years– to know yourself isn’t so easy.

After learning these two, it then may be appropriate to learn some methods to enhance.  But ask the question again, if know thyself is true, shouldn’t you be able to know your own produced sounds?   And also, know how these sounds are produced?   That is, If you can hear properly, you’ll be able to adjust your singing accordingly.   (Simple things can be very difficult).

Focus on the simple things first– know thyself, hearing thyself, straighten posture  – singing will naturally follow (isn’t this what Buddhists also says, in a way?)

In summary, sing to the audience an emotional message they’ll understand first, then learn what’s stopping your emotional message from being tonal.

hyperacusis, tinnitus, posture, resonance, vocal shape

October 20, 2010

It is not necessarily the vocal shape that directs all the sound, and obviously, the posture initially affects the direction of the sound.   If posture is not straight, it is possible that the sound starts going toward the ears, from starting at the vocal tract and then resonating within the skull.

The straight alignment can better assure that the sounds emit through the mouth.

Result is lesser volume of sound to ears and reduced tinnitus and hyperacusis.

This returns to the concept of Maya and also Alexander Technique.   Hearing is never right or accurately established, until the vocal apparatus is sitting in a regular vocal sound pathway–which in our case, is a detensed throat and inner mouth pathway.  This begins the cause of Maya in hearing.

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Full voice idea

September 28, 2010

It would seem that a full voice can be achieved by:  1. reducing the tension on the soft upper pallet, which gives the vocal tract a slightly longer tract, as the soft upper pallet can then be more concave upwards.  This gives bassy sounds a longer path.  2.   Then, send (push) the sound more to the sinus mask to increase higher frequency resonance as well.   Curious as to whether this idea is correct.  Love to hear your thoughts!

This is not to say that it’s easy to detense and push at the same time, while there’s still vocal tract tension.   Vocalposture’s view is that eventually, detensing will make the full sound the natural, innate sound.

Technical training and dance

July 12, 2010

from themodernvocalist.com [quote=ronws]I know this thread has aged a little bit. But I have thought about it some more. I think most any system of training, whether full of technical jargon or hokey imagery can benefit and expand a range and ability, primarily because it is offering some training and method by which to approach singing.
I still get plenty from technical descriptions. To me, knowledge is like a salad bar. Try the julienned carrots, they might be good.[/quote]

Can we learn dancing best by naming the muscles, explaining how ligaments worked, and  analyzing the physics of muscle contractions?  That is, instead of teaching steps and movements and interpretations, dance instructions becomes more anatomical, for example, contract the tibilias posterior slightly, tighten the peroneus brevis, set the rhomboideus major at 30 degrees, would dance teaching be served?

The ridiculous part of singing via SUBTLE anatomy descriptions is evident.   This isn’t to say anatomy descriptions can’t be used– just as in dance, one can say, move the calf half way forward, but the subtle anatomy descriptions such as accelerate the gastrocnemus while lengthening the peronus longus are inane. 

And worse yet, these subtle descriptions are 90% likely to be wrong.  I’ll bet the physics-physiology for even the simplest dance is extremely difficult, as the body is a vertical figure in balance, counter-balance, and doing all kinds of 3D, very complicated supports, contractions, and motions.

If we can’t even understand well the physics-physiology of dance, which we can see and uses the physics of better understood hard motions, what makes one think one can use physics-physiology for singing, which we can’t see and deal with lesser understood physics of soft tissues?

Hearing, singing and posture

July 10, 2010

Returning to a topic we had a year ago–the question was, is it possible to hear oneself sing accurately.  If it is possible, singing is much simpler–just interpret-match one’s voice to the music.

The vibrations move to the eardrums through the air vibrations from the mouth, the soft tissues in the vocal apparatus, and the head’s bones.  Most of the prior answers responded said it is possible, but it takes years of practice.  

I had stated that the mind then take these vibrations and interpret in very unusual ways; a process that I call Maya, the Maya in Indian and Buddhist thought.  Maya is illusion (delusion), and as it applies toward singing, I’m suggesting that aural Maya is one’s own mind’s hearing delusion of own voice.   Maya literally creates a different heard sound from what one’s actual singing–filling in missing notes, creating artificial highs, making one believe one sounds like the original recording, and more self-delusions.

How does Maya work?   The mind is powerful, and I can only guess at parts of this.  We can partially derive this from the way great gurus and bodhivisttas of the past tackled Maya.  Through meditation they bypassed Maya’s trickeries to see religious truths.

In meditation, the first step is to straighten one’s spine and align one’s head (sounds a bit Alexander technique?–well, it is).  

I’m suggesting that we can apply the similar spinal alignment treatments to bypass vocal and aural Maya (delusion).  When one spinally aligns, the vocal apparatus detenses and tones itself to sing naturally better.  This is getting rid of vocal Maya.

I’m further suggesting that when the spine and head are properly aligned, the detensing coupled with differing and better sound travel paths (through air, tissues and bones, above) enables one to hear better.   The hearing better will enable one to sing better with the also heard music.

So, I’m suggesting to sing better, one of the easiest things to do is to “hear” and effortlessly create truthfully one’s own sounds–and this is a process called getting rid of aural and vocal Maya.   

Hence, if meditation posture alignment is appropriate to see the “religious truth”, I’m suggesting that posture alignment is appropriate to hearing and vocal emission truths–one’s natural, best tonal voice.   You can read more about methods describing these at www.vocalposture.com, a random blog.

The idea of aural Maya I’m uncertain about–I’m claiming that the head positioning actual makes a difference in the way one hears.  What are your thoughts?

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